Hello Eric I do thankyou for the help,But I am going to have to give up soon, as the board may have a problem with it that is above repairing.I have checked the vertical ic on the pins and 1 is ground,2 is 13.2 should be 13.7 close enough,3 is 24.2 should be 25.6,4 is .8 right on the money,5 should be .7 but have 1.3,6 which is the vcc you talked about is 25.0 right on the money, 7 should be 1.6v is .10.I have excellent sound,picture in the middle of the screen in the inch and a half is there.I have gone over the resistors and caps again,even replaced any that might be questionalable.Zener was replaced. Any suggestions would be appreciated,before I call it quits with this tv. Thanks Rob